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BOMB SYRIA

Post by weedguru_animal » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:52 pm

What the fuck is wrong the world??? The answer can be found in the words of William Hague, the spastic pride of Hollande and worst of all, more awfully than any other, Kerry's abominable efforts to class the actions of the very groups he is funding and arming, as 'moral obscenities' on the part of The Current Enemy.

Seriously, are there truly huge swathes of americans and english and french who see nothing amiss with huge and obvious support for Everyone Against Assad, from OUTSIDE OF SYRIA??? With nothing much of anything shown on the western media institution's major moutpieces of the support FOR ASSAD wITHIN sYRIA?

So...the stage was set. Saudia and British and American and Jordanian and Qatarian and Bharaini and Israeli support for funding, arming and organizing Forces originating outside of Syria, whose agenda is at odds with Western Defences and Reasoning Behind the war on terror. Hollande sends the troops into Mali to fight The Enemy and then only months later, pours political and financial support for his former Enemy, in their mission to invade and conquer the sovereign state of Syria.

Hague...'vanishing chance' of the recent chemical attack in dAMascus deployed by the rebels?????? Hague is far from brain damaged. And so..,with that potential defence taken out of the equation, I can only consider his lies, his deception designed to influence millions of people and make them believe that their taxes should be used to kill thousands of people in a country which has never threatened or caused harm to in any way, their own country....these lies, are worse than lies. they are adding weight to the scales of a balance that is fucked to begin with.

I mentioned earlier to my elfin creature of a housemate, maybe today, maybe yesterday, that an Iranian Sunni madman I know, needs a kicking at the feet and fists of a righteous Shia man...Maybe that is boyish and vicious, but if an acquaintance can cause such nastiness to rise within my instincts, imagine what the likes of Hague can conjure...demons, the likes of which are not fit for the devils cookbook let alone this screen.

Obama...the most dangerous man in the history of my idea of the world, of Life. Of History in which I was a part...An inhuman Master of duplicity and cupidity. He sends his buddy Kerry to the middle east to preach Peace. He signs off with a hug and sly wink with Biby on a huge new settlement on OCCUPIED LAND in jerusalam, heads off to another country for his next pantomime performance, leaving the palestinians facing more land loss, more hatred of the West, more trickiness to simply survive.

Iraq and Afganistan were bad enough. Libya and Egypt continued the trend. And now Syria...We pay highly for this elevated standard of living, through living with blood on our hands, The blood of innocent people all over the world. Was it this bad for the macedonians when Alexander was marauding and dominating the world?? Maybe similar awfulness, but they didn't know the flesh of the beast. We Do. Or at least, We Should.

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Re: BOMB SYRIA

Post by weedguru_animal » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:12 am

The first PROOF...and yet still the cacophony of war drums grows ever louder, western warships are moved into position and the leaders of France, the UK and the Shite House threaten and condemn and prepare to launch...What kind of mentally enfeebled goon could swallow with patriotic pride and warmongering fervour, the spoonful of shit that is served up by Obama, Hague and Hollande??? A man investigated for murder is probably unlikely to commit another murder when the police are in his home...And this 'moral obscenity' which that abortion of a man Kerry speaks of, seems to fail to take into consideration the savagery of US phosphorus attacks on Iraq and the real leaders of the Shite House, The Zionists, heavy use of similar chemicals in Lebanon and the small scraps of land which can still be called The Palestine...

Khalil Harb, of Lebanese paper As-Safir, confirmed a few minutes ago to my great friend Claudio Gallo an article published in Arabic two days ago, quoting a Russian source.

According to the source, Russia's ambassador in the UN Security Council, Vitaly Churkin, presented conclusive evidence - based on documents and Russian satellite images - of two rockets carrying toxic chemicals, fired from Douma, controlled by the Syrian "rebels", and landing on East Ghouta. Hundreds of "rebels", as well as civilians - including those children on the cover of Western corporate media papers - were killed. The evidence, says the Russian source, is conclusive. This is what Lavrov himself was hinting at yesterday. And that's the reason there's no UN Security Council resolution against Syria, and why Washington does not want the inspectors to find anything.
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Re: BOMB SYRIA

Post by weedguru_animal » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:19 am

Wicked, rare and wonderful feeling to wake up and feel proud of the british government who for once have listened to the hugely overwhelming anti-invasion sentiment of the people and done right by us at the top level...at least for now.
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Re: BOMB SYRIA

Post by weedguru_animal » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:09 pm

I have as much trust and respect in the UN, which is mainly funded by the US and rarely, if ever, has a bad word to say about the US, even when there are votes to stop israeli stealing more land, and everyone but Israel and the US votes against a statement that would criticize and outlaw Zionist expansion policies.

I have no idea of what 'muscles' you speak of. Which Russia has been flexing...they have never mentioned any support of any military action, they have not threatened with attack, nor have they failed to speak out in reasonable terms when others are speaking nonsense. The US, UK and France have consistently mentioned and threatened with attack...which is factual, not conjecture, And yet you mention russia flexing its muscles.

Russia are a country, whose power, at least in comparison the the power of the english ruling forces, can be horridly revealed by looking back not so long ago at the sorry demise of Litvenenko. What kind of country could send in two agents, into another land, a land which supposes itself still a global power, and then proceed to poison to kill, in brutal ways, an enemy...leaving a trail of their nuclear warpath...the english then demanding extradition, and yet...one of the agents was promoted into parliament. Does that tell you Russia is crooked and evil and never to be trusted, or does it simply say...russia are more powerful than england. Than the US??? economically, without doubt. But the chinaman, whilst owning the US economy, needs to sell to its largest market, the US economy...Would you call the Litvenenko extermination 'flexing its muscles'???? To my understanding, Russia have their own interests in Syria. Do they believe that Assad is a blood thirsty maniac?? NO. If the russiane-quipped port in Syria, which can home Russian nuclear submarines, the only place that can do so in the middle east, was a defining issue, it would be very very simple for the US, UK, France, Saudis, Qatar, Jordan, UAE... to offer the safe-keeping of the port to Russia. Some business agreements are in place.. weapons and some non warfare infrastructure...nowhere near enough to make russia worry.

What does this lead to??? Very clearly, Russia have not a huge amount to lose, which they couldnt protect, or offset financially. Maybe they are sniggering in some way, and saying for fucks sake, look what you did in iraq, afghanistan....two wars awfully lost, one of those countries destroyed back to the dark ages after being a shining light for health care and education in the region UNDER SADDAM HUSSEIN. Look at what you did in Libya, Egypt...STOP IT. STOP INVADING COUNTRIES FOR NO GOOD REASON AT ALL.

there is the issue of Iran. Of the shia connection. Of Hizbollah's involvement. Yet equally so, is the absolute madness of saudi princes, heads of their intelligence agency, meeting Putin and basically telling him that he controls the muslim groups in chechyna, and if Putin plays ball, he will make sure the olympic games in russia are safe from attack...from these rebels he controls. Putin was disgusted. Its not news which will make any western front pages or back pages. But still it happened...
http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_08_29/Ban ... tack-2596/ or peek for Bandar threatens Putin. Its also the flow of energy supplies throughout the region. And the designs of AIPAC.

I am sidetracked.

Russia won't flex their muscle. They will continue to engage in legal business deals with Syria, show their own opinion when asked, and especially in the UN security council, probably speak a lot of sense.

Nobody seemed to care when the UN investigators talked of rebels using chemical weapons several times before. What difference could it make for the opposite report to be heard...? Yet I stick by the same explanation as Assad gave two days ago. There is no basic logic to assuming first and foremost that a country leader, battling a civil war, would invite into his country chemical weapon inspectors, then launch a chemical attack on its own people the very next day, knowing full well that to use chemical weapons is the red line for the Us president to authorize an overt military response. Look at who could gain from such an episode...Could Assad gain anything at all??? He was winning the war, the rebels were in decline, something drastic needed to happen for the rebels, not assad. Could the rebels gain anything??? hugely...I am sticking with logic, until any proof suggests a different story. And we have no proof, other than declarations of war from the same sociopaths who told us saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction, who took us into afghanistan and beyond...blah blah blah...proven liars should be met as proven liars, not as a global power for moral good.
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Re: BOMB SYRIA

Post by cutthecashflow » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:35 am

U.S. Considering Using Military To Train Syria Rebels
By LOLITA C. BALDOR 09/05/13 07:10 PM ET EDT


WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is considering a plan to use U.S. military trainers to help increase the capabilities of the Syrian rebels, in a move that would greatly expand the current CIA training being done quietly in Jordan, U.S. officials told The Associated Press on Thursday.

Any training would take place outside Syria, and one possible location would be Jordan.

The officials said no decision had been made, but that discussions were going on at high levels of the government. It comes as the Obama administration prods Congress to authorize limited military strikes against Syrian President Bashar Assad's government in retaliation for a deadly Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack.

The proposal to use the U.S. military to train the rebels – something the administration has resisted through more than two years of civil war – would answer the demands of some lawmakers, including Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., to do more to train and equip the Syrian opposition. President Barack Obama in June decided to provide lethal aid to the rebels, but so far none of that assistance has gotten to the opposition.

Officials said Thursday that talk about a military training mission has increased but that there have been no specific Pentagon recommendations forwarded to the White House on how big it should be or how many troops it should involve.

The CIA has been training select groups of rebels in Jordan on the use of communications equipment and some weapons provided by Gulf states. The new discussions center on whether the U.S. military should take over the mission so that hundreds or thousands can be trained, rather than just dozens.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the plan publicly.

Any new training program conducted by the U.S. military would take time to put in place and likely would not begin until after any potential military action had been taken in response to the recent chemical weapons attack. It would require getting approvals from the host country, finding appropriate locations, getting the right number of personnel in place to conduct the training and setting up a vetting system to insure that instruction was not provided to any rebel groups that may not be friendly to the U.S.

The Pentagon already has at least 1,000 troops in Jordan, including trainers working with Jordanian forces. The U.S. left about a dozen fighter jets and a Patriot missile battery there after a recent training exercise.

Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has told Congress that the U.S. military would be prepared to do more training for the Syria opposition if needed.

In response to questioning Wednesday during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Syria, Dempsey said he was "mostly supportive of helping the opposition by their development, by their training and equipping, not by becoming their military arm."

He provided more details in a July letter to Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., the chairman of the Senate Armed Services, in which he laid out military options in response to the chemical weapons attack. That letter was sent before Obama announced plans to go to Congress to seek authorization for military strikes in Syria that would be limited in time and scope and would involve no U.S. troops on the ground there.

He said the U.S. could provide between several hundred and several thousand trainers, with a cost of as much as $500 million a year, depending on how large the training mission became. Noting that it would require using "safe areas" outside Syria, he said the risks included "extremists gaining access to additional capabilities, retaliatory cross-border attacks, and insider attacks or inadvertent association with war crimes due to vetting difficulties."

In hearings this week, some members of Congress complained that the Obama administration has not done enough for the rebels, while others strongly opposed any American military involvement in Syria. Lawmakers warned Dempsey and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel that Americans are weary of war and are not willing to spend more money and risk more lives.

U.S. officials continue to say that any likely military action would be limited and bear no resemblance to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, or even the short military operation in Libya in 2010. Instead, it would center on cruise missiles fired from U.S. ships – including submarines – in the Mediterranean Sea.

There also is no enthusiasm for sending U.S. pilots into Syrian airspace. If additional military assets are needed in order to strike a larger number of targets inside Syria, the U.S. could use long-range bombers, which could fire missiles without crossing into the country's airspace.

France also has a dozen cruise missile-capable fighter aircraft at military bases in the United Arab Emirates and the Horn of Africa nation of Djibouti.
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Re: BOMB SYRIA

Post by weedguru_animal » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:54 am

They are a fair few months out of date...These pigfuckers have been training their al qaeda pals in Jordan and probably Turkey since much earlier this year. Arms as well...huge amounts of arms. I think it was the iraqi army who arrested a group in Iraq who were en route to the rebels with a stash of some form of chemical weapons. Also, not to labour the point but Carla Del Ponte said in May of thus year, and she IS the UN...

‘Our investigators have been in neighbouring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals, and there are strong, concrete suspicions, but not yet incontrovertible proof, of the use of sarin gas,’ said Del Ponte in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.
‘This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities.’

Doesn't fit too well with Obama's narrative.
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